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  The Captive Mind of a former bethalite.

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  i see years of acute economic crisis ahead for the w.t.

  this is evident with letting go of " volunteer" bethalites throughout the world.

  but my thread is on the consequences to the individual, and the organisation of letting " volunteer" bethalites go.. so what happens to the captive mind of the former bethalite when they are let go from bethel?

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  What questions would you like answerd " truthseeker"?

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  The Captive Mind of a former bethalite.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
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  i see years of acute economic crisis ahead for the w.t.

  this is evident with letting go of " volunteer" bethalites throughout the world.

  but my thread is on the consequences to the individual, and the organisation of letting " volunteer" bethalites go.. so what happens to the captive mind of the former bethalite when they are let go from bethel?

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  Wow, " truthseeker" sometimes I feel it's impossible to communicate with people on the Internet. However " Stillin" you make it worth while trying.

  Anyway I am no former bethelite, but I am a former witness interested in thoughts on why with the poor economics of the W.T, they are terminating bethelites services?( This I understand is widespread)

  Surely the W.T appear to have over looked the fact ex- bethelites can make the best apostates? ( Or as the Godfather says keep your friends close but your enemy closer)

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  The Captive Mind of a former bethalite.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see years of acute economic crisis ahead for the w.t.

  this is evident with letting go of " volunteer" bethalites throughout the world.

  but my thread is on the consequences to the individual, and the organisation of letting " volunteer" bethalites go.. so what happens to the captive mind of the former bethalite when they are let go from bethel?

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  Truthseeker, my thread title was not meant to suggest I was a former bethelite. I am now embarresed by the thread title, but can't change it.

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  The Captive Mind of a former bethalite.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see years of acute economic crisis ahead for the w.t.

  this is evident with letting go of " volunteer" bethalites throughout the world.

  but my thread is on the consequences to the individual, and the organisation of letting " volunteer" bethalites go.. so what happens to the captive mind of the former bethalite when they are let go from bethel?

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  I see years of acute economic crisis ahead for the W.T. This is evident with letting go of " volunteer" bethalites throughout the world. But my thread is on the consequences to the individual, and the organisation of letting " volunteer" bethalites go.

  So what happens to the captive mind of the former bethalite when they are let go from bethel? Surely being made to leave bethel, will now create for many worry, about their private life, and the more worry the more likely the captive mind will awaken to the wasted years spent at bethel.

  I would imagine for many the main interest must now be how to survive in " satans" world? The fear must be unimaginable, and each individual story will be different. Some will be lucky and have family to support them, some will become depressed, and some will continue to be held captive by the W.T.

  But many will survive with minds no longer held captive to the W.T. These ex-bethelites will then probably have to struggle with do they retain a belief in God, or do they become athiest. So I feel sorry for them as It's going to be a difficult journey.

  Anyway the reason for the post was, I hope the W.T have underestimated the consequences of making these former bethalites enemies. Personally I am sure many of these ex-bethelites will become powerful apostates.

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  Make your predictions!

  by Coded Logic in

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  the more specific the better :) here are mine:.

  i predict that within the next two to three years (2017-2018) we will start seeing negative numbers in growth.. i predict that within the next thirteen to fifteen years (2027-2030) the number of jws will be less than 4million.. and i predict that by the time the first person sets foot on mars there will already have been a major split in the organization with either one of the gb or a branch overseer starting a new religion..

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  The history of the Watchtower, has become very embarrassing, so I predict that the Watchtower and Awake magazines will merge as one magazine, under another name.

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  I think Christmas is totally.....

  by The Rebel in

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  for the kids:-.

  so yesterday in accordance with my boys wish, we put the christmas tree and decorations up.

  ridiculously early i know, but it made him happy, and even i found decorating the tree fun.. the rebel..

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  As a witness, when my kid was born I had a lot of time other fathers wouldn't have had with a new born baby. That was a great thing about being a witness, a lot of time was spent at home.

  Now i have my boys Christmas wish list, and yea I can now buy him the computer, the headphones, the what ever on that list. But most importantly,having left the organisation i was wise enough or lucky enough to realise days in the park, or on swings, or in the swimming pool, ect ect ect...are the most important.....not the rut-race.

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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

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  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  OrphanCrow, thank you for your observation which was " a NON-PROFiT business model does not look or behave as a non profit organisation"

  Next you will be telling me nobody owns a non-profit organisation, and the W.T. is owned by Jehover. Gee thanks for that.

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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  Fin you make an interesting point about rebranding. Let me make a prophecy, in 10 years the Watchtoer will have another name, and therefore all the crap printed in the past will be hard to find.

  This kind of rebranding requires getting rid of the old regime and bringing in the future.

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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  Leave!thePlayingField " The Org will not die out. Nor is it on its way to dying out....

  The Rebel : first you have a great name " Leave!ThePlayingField". Second your correct, " the org will not die out" But my definition of " Religion" is " Money" and my definition of " money" is "property". So whilst I agree the organisation is not on the way out, it's selling of property is a reflection of its loosing control on its power to manipulate. So I agree the Org will never die, but its impact to control is waning, and this is symbolic in the collapse of its property empire.

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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  The Searcher, I won't give you egg in your face, but mud in your eye to you, that's a bloody good answer. The only way to explain selling prime property in London, is if you gambled the equity and lost.

  I mean why build a property empire and sell the " London real estate" unless you gambled and lost the equity on that asset?

  No self respecting business would ever sell real estate in London, unless they are daft, or desperate, because it's f,,king hard to buy again in the future, and twise as expensive.

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